Archives for July 2017

Comment back to Stripers Forever

Don’t know if any of you are members of Stripers Forever but I have been since it replaced Stripers Unlimited several years ago
They put an members article out commenting on Summer Flounder and it kind of got my blood pressure up as I think they need to stick to Striped Bass
But below is my comment back to them

Sent: 7/26/2017 12:04:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Re: Newsletter- July 2017

As an NJ advisor on Fluke to ASMFC I would ask you to do a little more research into the make up of ASMFC Technical advisors. The Fight NJ won is a result of convincing the Dept of Commerce that the regulations NJ proposed meets all current requirements . Raising the size limit is resulting in killing more females. Male summer flounder die off beginning at 17″ and 99% of males are gone by 18″ so the ridiculous regulations that have been proposed by ASMFC results in killing a breeding stock. I have watched since first summer flounder size limit went in at 13″ in 1984 the stock grow every year but one UNTIL 17″ size went in and growth slowed,17 1/2 ” size went in and stock started a slow trend down,at 18″ the stock has taken a serious downturn and under ASMFC current regulations that will continue. NJ average size based on my 9000 tagged fluke over a 20 year period is 14.45 ” . I will also tell you that 80% of all summer flounder after breeding on Continental shelf in winter will migrate slightly further north following a spawn.
The ASMFC is NOT doing the job it was intended to do and the Technical Committee is not looking at real numbers and rely on VERY Small sampling numbers . In addition the boat they use for dragging sampling is ineffective due to the type of net they use and draggers near the BIGALOW (FEDS boat) are reporting much better catches than the Fed’s BIGALOW.

There is no doubt the summer flounder stock is down BUT it is going down because too many prime breeders are being removed . Keep in mine the Commercial size is 14″. At a recent ASMFC/Mid-Atalntic council meeting of advisors EVERY ADVISOR FROM RI TO NC was in agreement raising the size was WRONG and all agreed we need to implement a slot size of some type .
I have been Stripers Forever member for many years and for most part agree with your efforts on Striped bass BUT please stick to Striped Bass.
I will also predict IF the ASMFC is allowed to operate as it currently is Striped Bass will be seriously affected
Bill (bucktail willie) Shillingford

Still no working engine

The DOWN BEAT GOES ON, New block was installed ,they fired it up and it ran 15 seconds and locked up and they are now back with Evinrude Technical people trying to get some explanations. So I will call in morning and see what the next step is.
Not all that upset with water temps in mid 70’s up but I will be if this isn’t fixed soon
This is longest I have been off the water in 15 years

7/19 more bad news

Motor was getting reassembled today and another problem was found in Exhaust system. Apparently this was missed when disassembling the block so now there will be another week plus before completion.
Good News is Evinrude agreed to supply free of charge
So I remain out of water .BUT given water temp in high 70’s I’m not all that upset as long as I can eventually get going again as water cools

fishing report 7/18

I jump on the General’s boat again this morning and we left dock around 4am looking for bass… Water temp on start of outgoing was 74 not good. We started at our normal places throwing poppers and could never get a bass on a hook. We had 6-7 swipes at the poppers but no hook up more than lightly due to warm water as by sun up the water temp was up to 76 . Once sun up we switched to eels and bucktails and never had a touch. Back at dock by 730 calling it a day
They are supposed to be putting my engine back together today so hopefully assuming no new problems she will be back in water later in the week


Well, I got an invite from the General who docks next to me to look for some bass and we left the dock at 4:30am .He has been getting them every day for past 2 weeks but water was cooler and now it was pushing 75
We headed to our spot with poppers and eels . Outgoing tide and water while 71 when we arrive was quickly getting up to 75.
We managed to get 6 ,4 on poppers and 2 on eels before the sun came up. Once sun came up we never had another bite. BUT it was good to have a bent rod in my hands again. Not big fish 22-27″
Hopefully they will begin putting my engine back together starting tomorrow


Bucktail Willie’s engine still in hospital but got an invite from Pat Martin on his RETAINER,, Sat was a little slow with only 6 fluke all shorts. Sunday things picked up as we got 16 but only one legal fish at 19″.. All fish caught in Great Egg Harbor Bay . Water temp on surface was 70-73 but some spots it clearly was colder on bottom .
Great Egg Harbor Bay was a little crowded but than it was a beautiful weekend in July Thanks Pat for opportunity and sure cleared up my shakes fro lack of fishing

Fishing Report 7/8 &9

UPDATE on few items

Still not fishing as I finally came to agreement with Evinrude and they came up with a reasonable cost of repair on my engine and they will send a replacement head and fuel injectors finally for a reasonable price that included labor.Problem is I will be down at least another 2 weeks given the Holidiay

Spent all day Wed in ASMFC advisory panel meeting with Bob Menenbrez where we along with recreational and Commercial reps from all East States from RI to NC. There is a lot of frustration and it was voiced on both sides AND we gave some excellent suggestions for Board to consider. All the suggestions will be given to Council to be reviewed before next meeting on July 28th of all Council members from both groups… 2018 regulation groundwork will begin for summer flounder,sea bass, and scup . NJ FISHERMEN need to be vocal with their politicians both Federal and State to make sure they stay involved AND don’t let NY/Conn overrun us. 2017 NJ is in a region of their own BUT not yet approved for 2018 and we MUST remain in our own region.
One excellent idea thrown out was splitting the State as clearly there are 2 different seasons for Fluke in NJ BUT this will take an effort to get NJ to agree to anything like that.
The other most mention thought was the implementation of slot fluke something under the 18″ size . Now even the Council’s reports are recognizing males are dying off by 17 1/2 and gone by 18″ BUT it will take more involvement of fishermen to get any action on this as the Scientific Council has yet to act on this.
NEXT NJ Marine Council meeting is July 13th at 4pm and I am sure Sea Bass and Fluke will be on the agenda and they need to hear from us